Bruxelles-ul i-a facut lui Traian Basescu o mare nedreptate

de Cristian Pantazi     HotNews.ro
Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 12:44 Actualitate | Opinii

La Bruxelles, Traian Basescu o primit o lovitura nedreapta, in absenta. Cu citeva minute in urma, Jose Barroso, Victor Ponta si Iurie Leanca au anuntat un mare triumf pentru Republica Moldova: Comisia Europeana va recomanda ridicarea vizelor pentru cetatenii moldoveni care circula in UE. Cei trei au subliniat si marele ajutor energetic dat de Romania pentru Republica Moldova. Victor Ponta a fost validat astfel simbolic drept omul care aduce vesti bune pentru moldoveni. Desi toate aceste vesti bune sint munca de zece ani a lui Traian Basescu, proiectul sau de suflet. Absenta sa de la Bruxelles in acest moment este pur si simplu o mare nedreptate facuta de Comisia Europeana.

Nu stiu motivul pentru care Basescu nu a fost azi la Bruxelles. Dar cu siguranta ca Jose Manuel Barroso, un politician extraordinar de experimentat, stie ca Traian Basescu trebuia sa fie in cadru alaturi de el. Prezenta oricarui alt politician roman la acest mare anunt este un fals istoric. De ce a ales Barroso sa-l invite pe Victor Ponta si sa-i dea gratuit un mare succes politic cu care sa se afiseze atit in Romania, cit si in Republica Moldova? Nu stiu inca.

Stiu insa ca scena de la Bruxelles a fost furata. Prim-solistul era Traian Basescu. El - sprijinit de o diplomatie care a inteles miza jocului si l-a ajutat constant sa remorcheze Chisinaul spre proiectul european - a impus miza moldoveana pe agenda Europei. El s-a batut cu reticenta celor mai multi lideri europeni, satui de extinderi ratate. El s-a razboit permanent cu amenintarea unei Rusii care vrea sa-si mentina sfera de influenta intacta. El a mobilizat energii majore in acest proiect, in momente in care nici macar moldovenii insisi nu mai credeau ca tara lor se poate desprinde de influenta rusa.

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20782 vizualizari

  • +25 (37 voturi)    
    ... (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 12:47)

    Dr.Mythnick [utilizator]

    mizeria politica nu e doar la noi in tara...
    • -39 (65 voturi)    
      Basescu in sus, Basescu in jos (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:01)

      cato [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui Dr.Mythnick

      "Acestea sint momentele in care cinismul politicii devine de neinteles pentru oamenii simpli."
      Oau, mai nou oamenii simpli revin in atentie. Eventual, majoritatea aia zdrobitoare careia ii e scarba de Basescu... a, stai, aia sunt antenisti, caci cine nu e cu Basescu e rau ;-)

      Pe aceeasi idee, cand Basescu era tinut in brate de europeni, totul era perfect normal. Acum, cand l-au dat jos din brate, europenii sunt anormali intrucat Basescu trebuie sa ramana normalul perfect.
      Eternul si fascinantul Basescu. Mi-e asa scarba de voi, ochelarii de cal cu idei putine, dar fixe.
      • +22 (34 voturi)    
        Adevarat ! (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:29)

        Troller [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui cato

        Exista o majoritate zdrobitoare careia ii e scarba de munca ! S-ar putea ca cele doua majoritati sa se suprapuna.
      • +13 (19 voturi)    
        nu mai citi (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:33)

        rochiri [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui cato

        da pe antena 3 daca nu vrei obiectivitate !
        • -9 (19 voturi)    
          ce bun esti (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 14:57)

          cato [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui rochiri

          Nu ma uit la televizor in general, Antena3 cu atat mai putin. Nu imi place nici basescu. Ochelarii tai de cal nu pot concepe asa ceva. Mai scoate-i, stimabile.
      • +13 (19 voturi)    
        zdrob si zdrub (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 14:10)

        the [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui cato

        cât de zdrobitoare, stimabile ?
        apropo de ochelari de cal, cine ti i-a potrivit ?
        cà ai ajuns sà citesti doar rezultatul referendumului transcris în aritmetica sPontanà !
        20% = 78%
    • -4 (18 voturi)    
      cum vine asta d-le Pantazi? (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 14:15)

      nova [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui Dr.Mythnick

      pai daca a citit Baroso si numai articolul dv. de ieri pe HN si-a dat seama ca nu trebuie sa mai aiba de-a face cu un astfel de presedinte. Va mirati ca TB a ajuns un NIMENI? Aveti cumva vreo contributie? Conjuratia jurnalistilor a decis ieri ca Basescu este un afacerist veros care face trafic de infuienta si trebuie mazilit. Terminati cu asteptarile fata de un mare om de stat pe care voi il terfeliti zi lumina!
      • -5 (9 voturi)    
        Wow... ! (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 16:29)

        marki [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui nova

        Te cheamă, cumva, Elena? (Udrea? Băsescu?)
        Că altfel nu-mi explic elucubrațiile de mai sus...

        Ah, da, ce să spun, Barroso nici nu are altă treabă, decât să citească articolele critice la adresa „marelui om de stat”...
        (Și de când, mă rog, „marii oameni de stat” sunt mai presus de lege?)

        Explicația e, cred eu, mult mai simplă: cariera lui Băsescu apune, UE se orientează spre cei care vin, și care sunt „apți” să stea drepți în fața ei, să nu crâcnească...
    • +2 (2 voturi)    
      se mai poate indrepta aceasta magarie!! (Sâmbătă, 16 noiembrie 2013, 8:36)

      asspeeda [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui Dr.Mythnick

      jurnalistii sa-l intrebe ,direct ,pe mincinos,la conferinte de presa,daca basescu are vreun merit in aceasta problema!!simplu!!!"credeti ca besescu are vreun merit in...?"!!!vom vedea atunci ,inca o data caracterul acestui im..cil!!
  • +34 (44 voturi)    
    Plagiatu ne-a mancat (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 12:51)

    EccE [utilizator]

    Te pui cu plagiatorul? Are doctorat in insusirea (furaciunea) muncii alora
  • +11 (21 voturi)    
    pentru ca.... (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 12:51)

    keiser_soze [utilizator]

    social-democratii din europa au majoritate in parlamentul european, pentru ca martin schultz, actualul presedinte al PE candideaza pentru postul lui barosso, de sef al CE, la alegerile de anul viitor, din mai.
    • +12 (16 voturi)    
      Popularii au majoritatea! (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:11)

      LiviuIordache [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui keiser_soze

      Minciuna in fals, prietene, nu social-democratii au majoritate in PE, ci popularii. Numai ca, potrivit regulamentului PE, prima jumatate de mandat de presedinte este detinuta de majoritari, al doilea de opozitie, ca sa zic asa, adica de partidul european sau coalitia de partide de pe locul 2, functia fiind de reprezentare, tehnica. In ce priveste candidatura lui Schultz la Comisie, ce legatura are, alege cineva comisia in mai? Se aleg, pe tari, parlamentarii europeni, dupa care comisia, in PE, dupa negocieri. Si acum sunt comisari de toate orientarile. Greu cu golaniile astea democratice, nu-i ca la noi, zice Voiculescu si gata!
      • +3 (9 voturi)    
        stii ce ? (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 15:55)

        keiser_soze [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui LiviuIordache

        eu imi cer scuze ca mi-am exprimat opinia usor eronat (http://euobserver.com/political/122004) dar tu ce scuza ai pentru ca ai simtit ca te-ai trezit mai destept in dimineata asta ?
        un profesionist - dupa mesajul postat asa pare ca-ti place sa crezi ca esti - ar fi explicat eroarea fara ironie ieftina !
        Si daca tu nu crezi ca alegerile astea nu se influenteaza reciproc inseamna ca esti mai naiv decat pari, parerea mea, eronata sau nu !
  • +14 (18 voturi)    
    CE recomanda, Consiliul european decide! (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 12:56)

    LiviuIordache [utilizator]

    Daca gindim doar in termeni de imagine tip fotografie, ar merge o asemenea abordare (pardon de cuvint tocit). Numai ca insisi cetatenii moldoveni vor percepe, direct, nemijlocit, imediat, in toate sensurile, ca nu Ponta a ridicat vizele, ci Basescu. Asta pentru ca daca vor incerca acum sa treaca granita va fi ca in gara, adica nu vor trece. Din simplul motiv ca acum s-a anuntat RECOMANDAREA ridicarii vizelor, decizia urmind a fi luata de Consiiul european, cind va vota Basescu. De fapt, problema nu este cine isi pune decoratia in piept, ci daca o merita.
  • +13 (21 voturi)    
    desi trist pentru Base (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:00)

    zaboo [utilizator]

    eu mai vad un aspect: Ponta cu discurs pro-european in gura dupa ce au facut anul trecut (ipocrizia dusa la extrem) - dovedind inca o data ce spunea Base despre dublul discurs
  • -10 (16 voturi)    
    Asa e corect! (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:00)

    Con_stan_tin [utilizator]

    Urmasii isi insusesc realizarile parintilor. Si este evident ca parintele politic a lui Ponta este chiar Basescu.
    • +6 (8 voturi)    
      aha (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:52)

      verisoaraluifelix [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui Con_stan_tin

      ce ?! :\
    • +3 (7 voturi)    
      Stantin ! (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 14:11)

      the [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui Con_stan_tin

      t'es vraiment Con ...
      • -3 (5 voturi)    
        Esti un geniu (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 19:02)

        Con_stan_tin [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui the

        daca reuseti sa ridici un idiot peste nivelul tau, iar cand il cobori sub nivelul tau,esti un?
    • +2 (4 voturi)    
      Parintele politic este Adrian Nastase (Sâmbătă, 16 noiembrie 2013, 0:34)

      Mihail_AD [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui Con_stan_tin

      Traian Basescu este idolul nerecunoscut.
      Dl. Victor Ponta a practicat ce i-a reprosat mai mult lui Traian Basescu. Din pacate, a facut-o fara stil. Si sa plagiezi cere putin talent...
  • -16 (26 voturi)    
    Despre vizele fratilor nostri moldoveni in U.E. (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:03)

    Theros [utilizator]

    aceat comentariu arata cu toata claritate ca autorul nu esta ziarist si nu pricepe nimic din cele mai elemantare norme de protocol si eticheta diplomatica!!!! basescu a baut vin de la moldoveni si , in starea de euforie bachica , nu a intreprins nimic bun pentru republica moldova!!! in al doilea rand, nici un politician din comisia europeana si din consiliul europei nu-l considerea pe basescu nirelocutor serios de dicutie!!!!
    • +2 (8 voturi)    
      da da da (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:53)

      verisoaraluifelix [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui Theros

      Ca Ponta "oktoberfest " e sufletul dezbaterii pe la CE. Ca un plagiator cu discurs ambiguu si multe tendinte anti-occidentale " care este " .
    • +2 (2 voturi)    
      Dupa cum ati scris... (Sâmbătă, 16 noiembrie 2013, 0:35)

      Mihail_AD [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui Theros

      ...vinul a fost bun, intr-adevar
  • -7 (19 voturi)    
    o fi aflat (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:04)

    adrian8 [utilizator]

    de dubiosenia cu creditul , si nu vrea sa iasa in poza cu un viitor .... ex-presedinte .... :)
    • +7 (9 voturi)    
      ba (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:54)

      verisoaraluifelix [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui adrian8

      Nici cu un viitor presedinte n-a avut "privilegiul" sa se intalneasca azi. Sper..
  • +9 (13 voturi)    
    Uman versus Institutional (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:05)

    Sani [utilizator]

    Este normal sa se intample asa.

    Un prim-ministru este privit in exterior ca un continuator al celor dinainte si este la randul sau un precursor al celor de dupa.

    La noi din pacate, suntem prea mult la mana "umanului" si am invatat sa judecam asa.

    Cu alte cuvinte: Daca romanul este prost si intelege ca Ponta este un prim-ministru bun, nu prea ai ce-i face....iar la genul asta de oameni exista doar o modalitatea de a-i face sa se razgandeasca: FOAMEA & TEAMA!

    25% au incredere in Plagiator.....este mai bine decat 83% in timpul lui Iliescu nu-i asa?
    Hai sa fim optimisti totusi...
  • -8 (14 voturi)    
    Baroso nu este decat.... (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:06)

    Ponta [utilizator]

    .... un alt lingau comunist.
    Pupincuristi nu sunt numai la noi, vestul este plin.
    • 0 (0 voturi)    
      Si Barroso e comunist?! (Sâmbătă, 16 noiembrie 2013, 16:49)

      GRANDFATHER [anonim] i-a raspuns lui Ponta

      Nu mai poti avea incredere in nimeni!
  • +13 (15 voturi)    
    conteaza rezultatul (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:09)

    condrescu [utilizator]

    Rezultatul conteaza si nu cred ca Basescu e omul care lupta pentru o statuie... iar Ponta nu citeste biblia, unde se zice ca "a Ta este marirea"
  • -11 (19 voturi)    
    all hail the chief (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:25)

    johnbucharest [utilizator]

    Dear Cristian,
    You are complaining on behalf of "The Last Autocrat of Europe" as he was recently named by an article in New Europe online...I have lived in Romania from 2004 so I have been here during his "reign"...Honestly, I completely fail to understand why on earth you waste your time (and ours) lauding this despot and his clan of thieves.
    Do you forget the circus Basescu made regarding who will represent Romania during other UE meetings, you think the other leaders did not see this ridiculous petty domestic contest for what it really was?
    Why? doesent anyone in our country have a collective concious and the ability to remember what Mr.Basescu and his clan have done to this country during his reign? I think a lot of people do.
    We are at the rock bottom of the UE, still with no highways,a legal system that is a bad joke at best, wise guys get away with murder (still) literally, we are fined 1Billion Euro because of the inept and incompetent mis-management of UE funds, we still cant make any proper privitizations (worst in UE on this as well) 40% of the schools have no running water, we just bought 30 year old garbage F16's instead of new gripen aircraft (both cost the exact same (ridiculous) ...

    I can go on for hours, but , the question is, why do you find it so important to support this person and in turn his gang of thieves and thus overlook all of the damage they have done to our country?

    I just dont get it Cristian, really i dont. It's nothing personal, just constructive criticism and and attempt to have a civilized dialog.
    I am confident if more people actually took the time to discuss these issues on forums such as this, we might (might) be able to move on and away form the petty nepotism and corruption based socio-political quagmire we are living day by day here in Romania.

    I look forward to hearing from you and other fans of hotnews so we can all talk about these things. Together we can make a difference.

    Best regards,
    John
    • +7 (13 voturi)    
      De la cine se presupune că ar fi scrisoarea asta? (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:41)

      CosminMaricari [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

      Și de ce e în engleză, că nu mă prind? E clar scrisă de cineva care nu e vorbitor nativ de engleză și traduce mot-a-mot expresii românești („made a circus”, „collective conscious” etc.)

      Limba de lemn a răspândacilor politici de pe plaiurile Internetului românesc, indiferent de orientarea lor, nu sună mai bine în limba engleză.
    • +6 (10 voturi)    
      Tu esti? (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:41)

      codo [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

      Dietmar Bergthal, tu esti? de cand te caut! chiar existi?
    • +5 (11 voturi)    
      hail the chief (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:45)

      tara [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

      Dear John,
      Crezi ca esti important ca scrii in englezeste?
      Pur si simplu faci parte din secta Antena 3. care este toxica ca orice secta.In momentul cind pastorul Gadea va va ordona sa va sinucideti o sa o faceti in masa.Prevad ca momentul nu este foarte departe.
      Nothing personal just constructive criticism.
      Best regards.
      • -4 (8 voturi)    
        hail the chief (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 14:04)

        johnbucharest [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui tara

        dear friend,
        I am sorry but I was not born here, i live here.
        I am a guest in your country, but i worry about it just as much as you do. English is my native language and i cannot express myself properly in Romaneste.
        For that I am truly sorry, but you can do what i do and use google translator :)
        Regarding the rest of your comments, funny story about the voiculescu vision channel and his puppets, but i am sorry to tell you that i laugh at them as much as you do...
        The irony here is that instead of participating in a "constructive" debate or discussion you resort to name calling and sarcastic anecdotes...just like the guys at ant3 do...congratulations on becoming the people you are mocking...

        I am sure you can do better than that, do you have anything serious or "constructive" to add to the discussion? I look forward to hearing from you soon
        • +6 (8 voturi)    
          Of course you are (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 14:18)

          CosminMaricari [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

          And I am a native speaker of French, nestchesepa? Croissant, omlette avec fromage, tour de frans & all that. :Wink:
        • +5 (11 voturi)    
          hail the chief (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 14:24)

          tara [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

          Joane,
          Mai ia lectii de limba engleza."I" se scrie mereu cu litera mare nu cum ai scris tu:i live here,i cannot express, i do and use google samd..Cred ca I facut engleza la Spiru Haret..
          • -2 (4 voturi)    
            hail the corrections (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 17:22)

            johnbucharest [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui tara

            Congratulations!
            It is good you studied English at Spiru Haret.
            I studied in Canada and the USA, but I dont need to tell people that :) who cares, we are chatting on a forum...

            You were very keen to point out spelling errors, yet we did not get to discuss anything relevant to the subject at hand.
            Why don't we try to have a dialog about the article and not dwell on my inability to communicate in Romanian, I am truly sorry for that.
            Best regards,
            John
        • +2 (6 voturi)    
          WTF (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 17:33)

          JohnR [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

          John, you really sound like you've been brainwashed. Seriously... and constructive: they are pills for what you have.
          • -1 (1 vot)    
            wtf (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 23:52)

            johnbucharest [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui JohnR

            pills are good :)

            seriously though, no brainwashing amigo
            just the thoughts of someone who dares to not put up with the usual "asta este" of daily life in Romania...so, what do you think is incorrect with my observations?
            I would really like to know, the statistics about the schools are courtesy of the Romanian govt,
            the joke of a legal system is evident to anyone living here, uless you live in a cave, the non existant highways are also pretty evident, the fact that we were fined 1 billion euro is also common knowledge...so what part of all those facts would entail some kind of brainwashing?

            Really, i am curious to know :)

            Best regards,
            John
    • +3 (7 voturi)    
      pe bune?! (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:47)

      IuliusC [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

      Mai Ioane,
      Las-o jos si da-o pe romaneste.
      Cu engleza asta de balta nu convingi pe nimeni....

      Haidi pa mai Ionica

      PS. ref la subiect, vino si tu cu noutati ca astea cu dictatorul sunt deja prafuite.
      • 0 (2 voturi)    
        pe bune (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 14:08)

        johnbucharest [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui IuliusC

        Scuzele mele, din păcate, eu nu scriu română la toate Sunt iusing Google Translator righ acum să vă răspundă.
        Sincer, îmi pare rău că nu pot să vă scriu în română corectă, punctul este bine facut si corect, dacă am fost de fapt român, eu sunt strain și trăiesc în România.

        Din nou, îmi pare rău pentru limba, și am aprecia feedback-ul!
        • +5 (9 voturi)    
          Really? (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 14:33)

          voce_in_multime [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

          Dear John (Doe),

          Vad ca nu ai nici o problema in a intelege romana. Esti o 'walking contradiction' cum ar veni in limba ta "materna".
          "I have lived in Romania from 2004 so I have been here during his "reign""
          "We are at the rock bottom of the UE"
          "we still cant make any proper privitizations"
          "I am sorry but I was not born here, i live here."
          "I am a guest in your country, but i worry about it just as much as you do. English is my native language and i cannot express myself properly in Romaneste"

          Daca nu te-ai nascut aici de ce te exprimi ca si cum ar fi tara ta?? Daca ai venit in 2004 cine iti da dreptul sa judeci? Nici o parere despre anii dinainte? De ce ai veni in tara asta daca e o dictatura la putere?

          Engleza e limba ta materna asa cum Ponta e un "doctor" adevarat. Eu lucrez zilnic cu oameni care au engleza ca limba materna si nici unul nu se exprima asa artificial ca tine. Puti de la o posta! Lasa gargara!

          Mi-am facut cont acum numai sa-ti raspund ...
          Best Regards,
          A Voice
          • -1 (3 voturi)    
            Really! :) (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 15:04)

            johnbucharest [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui voce_in_multime

            Dear Voice,
            I am glad to hear that you made an account, its a way to start a dialog.
            Regarding your comments:
            1) I came here because i am married to a Romanian if you need to know.
            2) I have the right to judge because as a resident,and tax payer i actually have the right to vote in municipal elections as any citizen in any democratic country can tell you...then again you are still not used to democracy after the "lovitura" oops i mean revolution in 89 ? cpme on, you know better than that :))))
            3) Why I came was because there were great investment opportunities here then and it worked out very well for us all these years.

            I am really pleased to see how much you are trying to beleive I am not a foreigner...its very funny.
            Also, its hilarious how you dont make reference to any of the facts in my observations, only anecdotal references to irrelevant issues and people (ie.ponta) We are talking about Basescu, I am sure you have something to say about him and his gang...unless you enjoy being manipulated my a despotic and neopotistic regime,come on, lets have a real dialog here and stop wasting your time with my origins, really :))

            Best regards,
            John
            PS: would a scan of my passport make you feel more comfortable that I am not Romanian? lol
            • +1 (3 voturi)    
              Dear whatsyourname (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 16:12)

              CosminMaricari [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

              Ok, let us ignore this travesty and pretend your are more than your shabby discourse reveals that you are (you know, that annoyingly ambitious Internet-activist/manipulator/evangelist that all the other no-name gnomes residing in Voiculescu's basement hate for trying too hard).
              So, could you please explain how on Earth you can ask for a constructive dialogue when you pass out "sentences" such as "Basescu is a despot" and so forth? Where is the evidence for this, can you construct and deliver an argument (maybe try in Romanian)? A dialogue goes back-and-forth, you seem to have your mind already made up. Do not dare pretend you seek dialogue, when all that you are here for is propaganda.

              Best regards... No, scratch that, no regard whatsoever,
              Me
              • 0 (2 voturi)    
                my name is really John (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 16:46)

                johnbucharest [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui CosminMaricari

                Dear Cosmin,
                The only travesty here is that instead of having a discussion you are resulting to name calling and stereotypes ( they guy in the brackets you are reffering to sounds like Gadea form ant3 lol)
                My opnion that Basescu is a despot is just that, an OPINION. I backed it up by stating a few facts. What i dare to do is to communicate in a forum and invite reactions for a dialog, no more no less. I dont know how old you are, but i think ROmanians have had enough propagandathe last 40 years, they dont need to hear any more form anyone, especially not me.
                So, instead of worrying so much about what i dare or dont dare to do, why dont you ask yourself, Mr.Basescu, his family, friends, have they helped Romania, Voiculescu? and the countless other wise guys who parade themselves in fromt of the tv and population and pretend to care about this country, our country? If they did we would have highways linking all 4 corners...Albania does, and they are not evene in the UE...oops, did we forget how many years we are in the UE and that we have absorbed the least ammount of funds GIVEN TO US FOR FREE EVERY YEAR? If that does not bother you , it should.
                I am not telling you what to think, just putting my opinion out to be judged and talked about, I would rather we discussed things like this instead of the usual hollow dialogs we all see on the mass media outlets.
                Just think about it :) and have a good weekend too.
                Best regards,
                John
                • 0 (2 voturi)    
                  Return of the propaganda 3D (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 18:00)

                  CosminMaricari [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

                  First of all, you seem to be quite a master of the fine and forgotten art of the non-sequitur, seeing how you believe that by listing a few shitty facts about my country you can prove that Băsescu is a despot. And let me say from the get-go that I do not blindly follow Băsescu, much in the same manner as I do not blindly follow really anyone. He has many skeletons in his closet that I do hope he will have to answer for, someday. But to call him a despot is exactly what the title of my comment says, propaganda. Romania is, for better or worse, still a democracy. And the only fear I have in relation to its continuing to be a democracy comes not from Băsescu, but from the other side of the spectrum.
                  What you are doing is what the largest part of Romanian politicians have been doing since Băsescu was elected the first time: using him as a scapegoat, attributing any- and everything that goes wrong within the borders of Romania (sometimes even abroad) to this seemingly invincible and immortal uber-powerfull malevolent dictator. How is it his fault that we seem incapable to use the EU funds, that corruption engulfs almost every aspect of our lives etc. Care to explain?
                  I would not be surprised if people find him guilty in case Greece will kick our arses in football tonight.
                  • 0 (0 voturi)    
                    3D (Sâmbătă, 16 noiembrie 2013, 0:01)

                    johnbucharest [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui CosminMaricari

                    You know whats funny, we seem to agree!
                    I also am convinced that there are a lot of folks who are responsible for the mess here over the years, the think with the B man is this: I know very well that he has been very methodical in consolidating his power base and ensuring his survival in the political sphere here...via proxy or other means, he has made sure that his "group" will survive. Now having said that, i also agree with you that he is not alone, I am convinced and know for a fact that there are other interest groups that are also following their agendas with the goal of filling their pockets...the issue is this, what are we, the taxpayers doing about it? that is what worries me the most. Dont be surprised on the weight of the criticism i put in the B man...he has a lot of guilt to carry as he has been around for a long time...that dopes not absolve the rest of the crooks, by no means... REgarding the EU funds, i know of many cases first hand of companies that were denied legitimate funding becasue they refused to pay the spaga that was "expected" from pdl clowns forst and psd clowns now...so dont get me wrong, i assign a lot of blame on Base becasue he has a lot of blame to answer for, so do the latest govt who has done almost nothing to change the status quo...so in the end, i hope you agree we all need to talk about these things and try to find some kind of a solution to fix this mess our country is in.
                    It was good speaking with you!
                    best regards,
                    John
                    • 0 (0 voturi)    
                      Aha (Sâmbătă, 16 noiembrie 2013, 10:34)

                      CosminMaricari [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

                      So this is sort of the Canadian-Romanian equivalent of that dumbed-down American Tea Party catch-phrase that blames everything on the US president: „Thanks, Obama!”

                      I want my „Thanks, Băsescu!” T-shirt and I want it now.
        • +2 (4 voturi)    
          hmmm, suspect dar totusi, sa fim civilizati.... (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 15:33)

          IuliusC [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

          Dear John,
          I write to you in english in order to get you out from this confusing and ambiguous "romglish" dialogue. Despite the fact that english is not only for me the native language, I`ll try to make myself clear in a few words.
          So, please go out and get the real romanian life pulse and desires and avoid taking your info only from one source.
          And also, please avoid manipulating people. Romanians are more smarter that you think....

          My best wishes for your endeavor in our nice country!
          Take care
          • 0 (2 voturi)    
            hmmm (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 16:37)

            johnbucharest [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui IuliusC

            Thank you for your reply.
            and thanks for letting me escape the romglish mess i usually make (my wife reminds me all the time lol)

            I would like to think that i know a few things about life here after living here ofr a few years, you correctly pointed out that i don't know exactly 100% whats going on, but I am aware of the "unique" situation that is modern day Romania.
            First, I care about my adopted country, this is why I am writing here and speaking about my ideas/views etc... I had the luck of knowing very closely about a lot of projects that the various pdl governments have undertaken, and that is where i started to learn about the nasty parts of real romanian life....in short, a lot of hard working people, intelligent, industrious and wanting for a better life...this is where things got ugly, there is always a group of privilidged ,lazy,entitled and corrupt people who get in the way of the majority. I cannot tell you how many times i have gotten into arguments with europeans and americans who like to stereotype romanians and who are just plain racist. I grew up in a multicultural society (in canada) and far from being perfect, it was a tolerant and fair system. You did not need to bribe everyone to get anything done. Now dont get this wrong, you dont need to bribe everyone here either, unfortunately in all the balkans, there is this under world culture of spaga that just ruins everything. All the good people and there are a lot, get undermined by the actions of the few...everyone likes to crack jokes abour dorel etc...if you go outside of Romania, Romainas for the most part are anything but like Dorel. They work hard like every other immigrant and want the best for their family...i should know , my parents were also immigrants when they fled to canada...
            Anyway, i agree with you that people, all of us, need to see what is really happening to this country we all call home, maybe then we can actually stop and say, hey, lets change :)
            • 0 (0 voturi)    
              Sorry for getting myself involved... (Sâmbătă, 16 noiembrie 2013, 1:41)

              Mihail_AD [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

              ...in somebody else's discussion.
              I just happened to hear many times these remarks about forgetting the tips, how to make right business, and generally how to make a better word. I work for a company that has made a policy and a culture of these principles. I really believe in this ways.

              On the other hand, I have been constantly disappointed by the multiple failures of the voices preaching them, when it came to prove themselves. Bechtel and Nokia are too big examples only.
              Then I saw this actually happens everywhere in the world. I saw western companies with prodigious background humiliated by young and small contractors with a better understanding of the local rules. Companies with long successful tradition doubting their own root policy and seeing for more flexibility. Just because initially "they have not gotten it". That's why I believe the terms are a bit different. It's not about how to change a society but rather how to make the different worlds match.
              I had to defend the American, Canadian or English people myself against the wrong perception of Arabic, Asian, African or Eastern European; however I cannot blame any side but only for the lack of communication.

              And one word to defend the ones who preferred rather doubting the identity than discussing arguments: I did not find too many arguments to discuss in the original comment. It's true that here is no court, and resting a case is sometimes impractical. Even though, the dialog is welcome, especially performed with an open mind
    • +4 (8 voturi)    
      Ioane (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 13:56)

      verisoaraluifelix [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

      Pe cine pacalesti tu ?:)) Treaba cu articolul din fituica aia "europeana " s-a fasait de vreo 4-5 zile.
      Restul e doar " mazar end fazar" -eala.
      • +1 (3 voturi)    
        Ioane (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 14:17)

        johnbucharest [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui verisoaraluifelix

        Pe cine pacalesti tu? :))
        Uite, care carpa vă vorbesc despre nu se afla nimic, este că ceea ce te deranjeaza?
        Sau faptele despre care am scris? Reacția dumneavoastră este tipic, de bună marionetă PDL, treabă bună!
        Păstrați sprijinirea Puppet Master ... cât de trist.
        Dvs. contribuție doar la un forum este de a bate joc de oameni și de a face comentarii, fără nici o referire la elementele de fapt ... de locuri de muncă bine, ține-te de lucru bun, stăpânul tău e fericit ... aceasta este atitudinea pe care se distruge această țară prietenul meu.
        De ce nu încercați să vă provocare și de a participa la dialog bazat pe coerent fapt?
        încercați să-l-ar putea place :)
        (the above was compliments of google translator :)))
      • 0 (4 voturi)    
        mirciule ... (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 14:23)

        adrian8 [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui verisoaraluifelix

        nu sa fasait nimic , decat in mintea voastra a 'faniilor' .

        citeste aici :
        http://www.dcnews.ro/2013/11/publicatia-new-europe-ii-raspunde-lui-traian-basescu-se-pare-ca-minciunile-ii-sunt-mai-la-indemana/

        e prea mare articolul ca sa pun aici , ia vezi cum e treaba cu fasaiala ?

        sper sa se publice , sau poate preia char HN stirea respectiva .
        • 0 (0 voturi)    
          HN a facut mai mult (Sâmbătă, 16 noiembrie 2013, 2:41)

          Mihail_AD [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui adrian8

          A vorbit cu editorul Coronakis
          http://www.hotnews.ro/stiri-esential-16017767-editorul-neweurope-basil-coronakis-vorbit-dan-voiculescu-inainte-publicarea-articolului-basescu-ultimul-autocrat-europei-voiculescu-nu-are-nici-legatura-afaceri-publicatia-dar-cunoastem-multi-ani.htm

          In link-urile indicate, echipa Noua Europa e surprinsa ca presedintele nu a contestat faptele. Dar ce era de contestat? In articolul initial sunt insirate aceleasi povesti repetate la unison de echipa Noua Putere. Plus ceva sare si piper: se vorbeste despre mitinguri masive de anul trecut protestand pentru "Libertate, libertate". Si asta pentru ca oamenilor le este frica sa vorbeasca tare, pentru ca telefoanele sunt ascultate. Acum, e limpede cine a comandat acest articol, din moment ce se teme sa-i fie ascultat telefonul.
      • 0 (4 voturi)    
        uite si originalul ... (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 14:26)

        adrian8 [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui verisoaraluifelix

        da ..e fasait rau de tot ... :)

        http://www.neurope.eu/article/media-circus-and-allegations-traian-basescu
    • +4 (6 voturi)    
      You are amazing! (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 14:36)

      Arcasu [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

      Congratulations for closely watching Romanian politics and arriving exactly at the same wise conclusions as the smart and subtle commentators from A3. This is a performance! Assuming that you are an expat living here for almost 10 years you are the living proof that intelligence is not only Romanian but is transnational! Just out of curiosity, where are you from? Don’t you miss home?
      • +7 (9 voturi)    
        Nu te-ai prins? E Raducioiu ! (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 14:43)

        ac [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui Arcasu

        Sau como si dice la Romania.
      • 0 (2 voturi)    
        amazing (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 16:58)

        johnbucharest [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui Arcasu

        buddy, I am Canadian, and this is my home now. I am a permanent resident. and no i do not miss where i grew up.
        AS far as voiculescuvision is concerned, that comedy show of a channel is funny (A3+group), but they are theur own worst enemy, you cant take them seriously, nobody can.

        Look, the reality (in my opinion) is that we are being led by interest groups that are conducted by certain people. Basescu is the leader of one of these groups. Its that simple, the irony here is that they dont really hide it so much...if you have ever tried to do business with the government here you will find out very fast.
        The situation is "trist" and what is even worse is that our optioins for change are not that great at all...this is how things are unfortunately...
        Again its my opinion and the report i alluded to earlier was jokingly mirrored in various wikileaks excerpts, actually as a matter of fact a US state dept analyst reffered to what Basescu was doing to Romania as the "Putinization of Romania" his words not mine...

        Anyway, it was good to get your feedback and i look forward to chatting with you soon.

        PS: off the record, i dont feel like an expat here anymore, i live here with my family, its really home, thats why I care about this country and what we are going to do to try to make it better :)
    • 0 (0 voturi)    
      It's not wise to remember the episode "EU meeting" (Sâmbătă, 16 noiembrie 2013, 1:04)

      Mihail_AD [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

      At that time, his politic opponent Mr. VP has stated he will go to the meeting himself no matter what, and made sure no transportation will be available for the president. After the meeting, he said he was forced to represent Romania because nobody else was there.

      Coming back to Bucharest, the same VP stated no commitment has been engaged by Romanian Government. A few hours later, European Commission published "Barroso list" with the 11 "commitments" agreed by Mr. Ponta.

      Yes this is Circus but it seems you chose to burden the wrong person with it.

      Speaking generally about the thieves and just speculating their connection with one or another is not efficient.

      The deal with the planes has been validated by the curent Gov. which makes me believe the rumors they spreaded previously are moonshine.

      For the bad condition of the education yes, the president has his responsibility but it's not like he took a good car and damaged it. He inherited it already damaged. It's less an excuse but remember, the reform in education has been started during his reign, and stopped by the new leaders, afraid of loosing power and popularity.

      And the justice has started moving due to his decisions. It's still a long way, a system cannot be changed right away and sometimes it reacts violently against changes; however the start should be continued instead of denying its importance.

      Supposing you are just a honest (maybe naive) witness of the local politics, it may be not a bad idea to diversify your sources.
      • 0 (0 voturi)    
        EU meeting... (Joi, 21 noiembrie 2013, 10:36)

        johnbucharest [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui Mihail_AD

        Hi Mihail,
        Your point is well taken, yes we truly have a royal mess here unfortunately.
        SIncerely, i do not think its a question of a naive perceprtion, it seems to come out like that as i try to tip toe around all the chaos that seems to continuw here no matter who is in power.

        The situatioin with the planes is a really complicated mess and i know about it very well because it is in my field of business, confusing decisions, by all parties, political and national interests all mixed up, bad decisions form a n economic/tactical point of view...a real mess.

        I talked about Basescu and did not mention his "partners" Videanu, Dragoi, Ionescu etc...everyone knows the gang, the funny thing is they dont hide their association when in Monte Carlo, and here in Bucharest for that matter...having said that, we have other characters associated with this PSD government that seem to be making things worse and not better...I cant understand them at all...they are actually going backwards on many things that were at least started (like you pointed out correctly) with the last govt...so where does this mess leave us...in the middle, confused, and going in circles...
        Not a good situation i am sure you can agree.

        I hope we can try to figure some way out of this mess, especially with education so we dont loose another generation of youth, the only real hope for a better future here...

        Best regards, John
        • 0 (0 voturi)    
          Well John... (Joi, 21 noiembrie 2013, 22:53)

          Mihail_AD [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

          ...for sorting out the things I know one sure way only: keep doing your stuff properly encourage the others to do the same, and get surrounded by people acting similarly. All in one statement: keep the faith. Why faith - because this path is long, hard and risky.
          Why is it the only one - because your remark is correct:political power cannot change the world no matter who is in charge. The change has to come from focal points located at the base, and spread to all the levels.
          How do we do it - this discussion will not fit in the comments to online newspapers.

          One word about my comments apparently pro-Basescu: I understand the mistakes, and I accept the apologies; there have been mistakes made during his reign, most of them accepted. What is hard for me to excuse is to see the new power repeating the same mistakes after condemning them. Especially not when this hypocrisy comes from one having the same age with me. It may be personal: I have fought many Ponta during the high school and college; I don't need another one in Government. This makes me more indulgent with the old generation who cannot be more than their previous life.

          And another remark: I am looking at the names mentioned as part of the gang. Now it's clear who is responsible for this whole mess: must be Ionescu :-)
        • 0 (0 voturi)    
          And one more thing John (Joi, 21 noiembrie 2013, 22:54)

          Mihail_AD [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui johnbucharest

          Thanks
  • -5 (11 voturi)    
    Ce texte basi(s)te... (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 14:22)

    nicanor [utilizator]

    Nedreptatea istorica facuta lui Basescu este numai in imaginatia dlui Pantazi. Dl.Barroso reprezinta Comisia Europeana, iar dl.Ponta reprezinta Romania. Nu persoanele sunt importante la Bruxelles, ci statele. Daca Basescu a fost aparat de CE anul trecut, a fost pentru ca el a pus in aplicare o politica anti-coruptie, asa buna sau rea cum a fost, si pentru ca modul in care uzurpatorii au procedat a fost ultra-marsav. Dar nimeni, in politica internationala, nu cade in sentimentalisme ieftine, asa cum isi permit (din pacate) ziaristii nostri! Basescu e la finalul mandatului, nu mai are o legitimitate populara si nici nu i se mai intrevede vreun viitor in politica. Ponta e o stea in ascensiune, chiar daca e un dobitoc (dupa parerea mea). Si, uite asa, daca ar fi gandit mai la rece, dl.Pantazi ar fi iesit mai castigat si ar fi inteles mai mult...
    • -1 (1 vot)    
      De fapt, Romania e reprezentata... (Sâmbătă, 16 noiembrie 2013, 2:43)

      Mihail_AD [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui nicanor

      ...de presedinte, conform Constitutiei.

      Dar nu din punct de vedere legal vorbea dl. Pantazi, ci moral.
      Care chiar nu are nici o legatura cu persoana care s-a pozat ieri cu dl. Barroso
  • -3 (11 voturi)    
    Viata merge inainte! (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 14:31)

    GRANDFATHER [anonim]

    Iar Basescu este deja "trecutul", de care din diverse motive si considerente nu vor sa-si mai aqduca aminte nici "licuricii" de la Bruxelles! O noua generatie de politicieni este "pe val" si asta nu-i nici o noutate! Asa a fost, asa este si asa va fi! Nimeni nu-i de nainlocuit nici macar in politica! Va reamintes o zicere oarecum cinica, dar dureros de adevarata: "Sunt pline cimitirele de cei care s-au considerat eterni si indispensabili!"
    Si pentru "oamenii simplii", vorba domnului Pantazi, am urmatorul mesaj&indemn: "Sa respectam trecutul si sa-i veneram pe inaintasi, dar sa iesim din "traditia" mersului spre viitor cu spatele - "era mai bine inainte" - sa ne intoarcem cu fata, sa-i "strunim" si sa-i "biciuim"(metaforic!) pe "cinicii politicieni", care trebuie sa faca treaba pentru care i-am angajat&votat! Sa folosim puterea votului nostru, supraveghindu-i continuu si schimbandu-i ori de cate ori gresesc! VOTATI SI IN MOD SIGUR VA FI MAI BINE! CEI CARE NU SE IMPLICA SI NU PARTICIPA, NU CONTEAZA!
    • 0 (0 voturi)    
      Cu observatia ca... (Sâmbătă, 16 noiembrie 2013, 2:45)

      Mihail_AD [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui GRANDFATHER

      ...implicarea la ilegalitati se cheama, de fapt, complicitate.
      Iar excluderea celor care nu se vor complici e o veche meteahna, cu radacini in Cosa Nostra.
      • 0 (0 voturi)    
        Exista o solutie la indemana! (Sâmbătă, 16 noiembrie 2013, 16:55)

        GRANDFATHER [anonim] i-a raspuns lui Mihail_AD

        Sa-i convingi pe alegatori de adevarul tau si ei vor vota majoritar cu tine, cu optiuneata, cu varianta ta de bine general!
        • 0 (0 voturi)    
          Dar sunt lucruri diferite (Sâmbătă, 16 noiembrie 2013, 21:35)

          Mihail_AD [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui GRANDFATHER

          Cursa electorala este una, adevarul este ceva total diferit.

          Hitler a castigat alegerile, Stalin a catigat razboiul si o sumedenie de alegeri, Obama a castigat si el de doua ori, Ceausescu aproape ca se plictisise...
          Iisus din Nazaret a pierdut la vot in fata lui Barabas.
          Ion Iliescu a castigat in dauna lui Corneliu Coposu, iar ca sa vorbim de adevar si minciuna, USL a fost votat dupa ce Victor Ponta a mintit din postura de prim ministru.

          La ce adevar ne referim? Da, lupta pentru luminarea proprie si a celor din jur se duce continuu, iar in cele din urma va fi castigata, dar asta nu are prea mult de a face cu sistemul electoral. Solutia e la indemana, dar raspunde altei probleme, nu celei care ne doare.

          Fie si numai pentru ca alegatorii isi dramuiesc timpul necesar intelegerii lucrurilor, fiind ocupati cu scandaluri fabricate.
  • -3 (9 voturi)    
    Nedreptatile Bruxelles-ului (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 15:53)

    Azra [utilizator]

    Acum o sa planga Base din nou.
    • 0 (2 voturi)    
      Nu-i nimic,, las'ca... (Sâmbătă, 16 noiembrie 2013, 2:46)

      Mihail_AD [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui Azra

      ...ne vom dedulci cu ranjetul vesel-irespontabil
  • +7 (7 voturi)    
    Raspuns simplu (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 16:59)

    Daniels22026 [utilizator]

    Va raspund eu la intrebarea: "De ce a ales Barroso sa-l invite pe Victor Ponta si sa-i dea gratuit un mare succes politic cu care sa se afiseze atit in Romania, cit si in Republica Moldova?"

    In primul rind pentru ca tarile sint mai importante decit liderii politici, oricit de virtuosi ar fi acestia. In al doilea rind, fie ca ne place sau nu, Victor Ponta reprezinta in acest moment continuitatea politicii romanesti. Iar intgrarea europeana a Moldovei are nevoie de sustinere politica cit mai puternica.

    Din pacate, fie ca ne place sau nu, Traian Basescu nu simbolizeaza in acest moment continuitatea politicii din Romania.

    Sint sigur ca Barroso il respecta pe Basescu. Dar Moldova e mult mai importanta.
  • -5 (11 voturi)    
    Se cara, se cara...maimutza cheala (Vineri, 15 noiembrie 2013, 17:39)

    EusebiaBiro [anonim]

    Si-a dau si aia seama ca i-a mintit Basescu vara trecuta ca pe ultimii.
    • +1 (3 voturi)    
      Sa nu vorbim de funie in casa spanzuratului (Sâmbătă, 16 noiembrie 2013, 2:48)

      Mihail_AD [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui EusebiaBiro

      Totusi, s-ar putea ca articolul sa-l citeasca si dl. prim ministru.
      Sa nu se simta oarecum.

      Am zis "simta"? Imi cer scuze.
  • +1 (1 vot)    
    Poate, este o situatie, (Sâmbătă, 16 noiembrie 2013, 12:02)

    Kappa [utilizator]

    poate este o asemanare.
    Ionel I.C.Bratianu a fost intrebat la Versailles, dupa WW1. de dl.pres.Clemanceau, "unde mama dra__ului mai este si Romania asta?" (HN, nu cenzura ca-i din Djuvara). Si le-a raspuns: "Romania este locul in care au murit un milion patru sute de mii de oameni ca sa va apere voua cu_ul" (e tot Djuvara).
    Dovada ca politica e o femeie de moravuri usoare.
    N-am chef de ridicat monumente, dar cind vezi un Barbat ii faci loc, si daca are chelie si daca nu.
    Barbatia, si Piratul a aratat-o, nu sta in podoaba capilara.
    Sta'n altele, si Marinarul a dovedit-o.
  • -2 (2 voturi)    
    politica UE nu e Basescu! (Duminică, 17 noiembrie 2013, 9:08)

    ccteddy [utilizator]

    Cred ca mai degraba a fost o precautie la reactia rusa. Basescu are o imagine foarte proasta la Moscova asa ca a fost pus la conservare in problema Moldovei. Pentru a respecta adevarul: Basescu a fost trambitasul politicii UE de atragere a Moldovei. A facut-o prost enervand toti actorii si intarziind procesul de integrare.


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