Polonia a devenit pentru armata americana centrul de gravitatie in Europa - gen. Ben Hodges

de R.M.     HotNews.ro
Marţi, 15 august 2017, 11:43 Actualitate | Internaţional

Ben Hodges
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Polonia a devenit "centrul de gravitatie" in Europa pentru armata americana, ai carei soldati sunt amplasati pe frontul estic al Aliantei atlantice, in fata Rusiei, a declarat marti comandantul fortelor terestre americane in Europan, Ben Hodges, citat de AFP. 

"Polonia a devenit pentru Statele Unite centrul de gravitatie pentru tot ceea ce facem in materie de descurajare", a spus, intr-o conferinta la Varsovia, generalul Ben Hodges.

"Sute de soldati americani se antreneaza in fiecare zi (...) in diferite locuri din Polonia din cauza situatiei sale atat de importante, geografia", a continuat acesta, adaugand ca aceasta tara are un rol de "lider in cadrul Aliantei".

Armata americana a amplasat in mai un nou cartier general in Polonia pentru a comanda cei circa 6.000 de soldati amplasati aici in cadrul operatiunilor NATO si ale SUA pe flancul estic al Aliantei.

Aceasta amplasare de soldati, una dintre cele mai importante din Europa pentru fortele americane de la finalul Razboiului Rece, urmareste sa asigure statele est-europene aliate  cu Washingtonul in fata frecventelor manevre militare rusesti la granitele lor.





















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  • +8 (26 voturi)    
    Pesedaci si dacopati nu sariti in sus cand cititi (Marţi, 15 august 2017, 12:00)

    Susufler0 [utilizator]

    declaratia lui Hodges !

    PS. Daca o faceti insa veti dovedi tuturor ca habar nu aveti de geografie !
  • +14 (16 voturi)    
    Sa nu-i invidiem (Marţi, 15 august 2017, 12:49)

    Un Nene [utilizator]

    Cand esti vecin cu Kaliningrad si Bielorusia, ba ai o limba slavona care e mai usor de invatat pt spionii rusi, parca nu iti arde sa dormi linistit.
    Cateodata ma felicit ca sunt roman, avem o limba care e greu de invatat pt sovietici (vedeti gafele din Guccifer 2.0, cum s-au dat de gol) si ne detasam de migratorii pe care Adolf a vrut sa-i impinga inapoi in Siberia.
  • -14 (20 voturi)    
    US va lupta pina la ultimul polonez (Marţi, 15 august 2017, 13:33)

    quietguy58 [utilizator]

    S-a mai linistit treaba cu ISIS asa ca trebuie deschis un nou front, nu de alta dar trebuie sa manince si ceva cei din industria de armament care lupta pentru "pace" si "democratie".

    US va lupta pina la ultimul polonez dupa care va cadea la pace cu Rusia.
    Exemple: Vietnamul de sud devenit intre timp republica Vietnam, Coreea (azi impartita in doua).
    • +9 (13 voturi)    
      nu mai puteti sfasia tarisoarele astea (Marţi, 15 august 2017, 16:31)

      yellowdog [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui quietguy58

      dupa bunul vostru plac rusnacilor?
      asta va doare cel mai tare...
      • -9 (13 voturi)    
        Citeste istoria inainte de a comenta (partea I-a) (Marţi, 15 august 2017, 17:19)

        quietguy58 [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui yellowdog

        Nu sunt rusnac | rus | troll.

        Pur si simplu citesc istoria si am mentionat doar citeva exemple unde US a lasat sa cada guvernele pe care le sustinea cu ajutorul armelor si a trupelor americane.

        Cele mai multe interventii militare pe care le-a avut vreodata un stat in istoria omenirii sunt cele ale US si asta intr-o perioada de numai de 72 de ani.

        "946 Iran Troops deployed in northern province.
        1946-1949 China Major US army presence of about 100,000 troops, fighting, training and advising local combatants.
        1947-1949 Greece US forces wage a 3-year counterinsurgency campaign.
        1948 Italy Heavy CIA involvement in national elections.
        1948-1954 Philippines Commando operations, "secret" CIA war.
        1950-1953 Korea Major forces engaged in war in Korean peninsula.
        1953 Iran CIA overthrows government of Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh. Read More
        1954 Vietnam Financial and materiel support for colonial French military operations, leads eventually to direct US military involvement.
        1954 Guatemala CIA overthrows the government of President Jacobo Arbenz Guzman.
        1958 Lebanon US marines and army units totaling 14,000 land.
        1958 Panama Clashes between US forces in Canal Zone and local citizens.
        1959 Haiti Marines land.
        1960 Congo CIA-backed overthrow and assassination of Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba.
        1960-1964 Vietnam Gradual introduction of military advisors and special forces.
        1961 Cuba CIA-backed Bay of Pigs invasion.
        1962 Cuba Nuclear threat and naval blockade.
        1962 Laos CIA-backed military coup.
        1963 Ecuador CIA backs military overthrow of President Jose Maria Valesco Ibarra.
        1964 Panama Clashes between US forces in Canal Zone and local citizens.
        1964 Brazil CIA-backed military coup overthrows the government of Joao Goulart and Gen. Castello Branco takes power. Read More
        1965-1975 Vietnam Large commitment of military forces, including air, naval and ground units numbering up to 500,000+ troops. Full-scale war, lasting for ten years.
        • -1 (5 voturi)    
          extraordinar, (Marţi, 15 august 2017, 21:14)

          yellowdog [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui quietguy58

          pe a Romaniei nu o citezi, al 2 lea razboi mondial cand a-ti sfasiat Polonia in doua, nu conteaza, cand a-ti invadata Finlanada, marea armata rosie cu 1 milion de trupe ca sa luati doar 15 km nu e citatata, cand a-ti luat Basarabia nu exista, si asta numai istoria recenta.
          tezaurul romanesc dat spre pastrare cand eram aliati cu rusia tarista, unde este mai banditilor...


          marsh dezinformatorule kgb, tot dai cu cia, pa sa vina in Romania sa ne subjuge ca pe nemti, coreeni, japonezi
          • -2 (2 voturi)    
            Nu-ti face iluzii (Miercuri, 16 august 2017, 12:25)

            quietguy58 [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui yellowdog

            1. Nu-ti face iluzii, daca investitorii americani seriosi vroiau sa vina, fii sigur ca veneau pina acum.
            2. Am prezentat interventiile americane / ruse din perioada 1945 - 2017.
            3. Imi place istoria cu adevarat
            4. Nu sunt dezinformator KGB, etc...
      • -8 (10 voturi)    
        Citeste istoria (partea a II-a) (Marţi, 15 august 2017, 17:21)

        quietguy58 [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui yellowdog

        "1965 Indonesia CIA-backed army coup overthrows President Sukarno and brings Gen. Suharto to power.
        1965 Congo CIA backed military coup overthrows President Joseph Kasavubu and brings Joseph Mobutu to power.
        1965 Dominican Republic 23,000 troops land.
        1965-1973 Laos Bombing campaign begin, lasting eight years.
        1966 Ghana CIA-backed military coup ousts President Kwame Nkrumah.
        1966-1967 Guatemala Extensive counter-insurgency operation.
        1969-1975 Cambodia CIA supports military coup against Prince Sihanouk, bringing Lon Nol to power. Intensive bombing for seven years along border with Vietnam.
        1970 Oman Counter-insurgency operation, including coordination with Iranian marine invasion.
        1971-1973 Laos Invasion by US and South Vietnames forces.
        1973 Chile CIA-backed military coup ousts government of President Salvador Allende. Gen. Augusto Pinochet comes to power.
        1975 Cambodia Marines land, engage in combat with government forces.
        1976-1992 Angola Military and CIA operations.
        1980 Iran Special operations units land in Iranian desert. Helicopter malfunction leads to aborting of planned raid.
        1981 Libya Naval jets shoot down two Libyan jets in maneuvers over the Mediterranean.
        1981-1992 El Salvador CIA and special forces begin a long counterinsurgency campaign.
        1981-1990 Nicaragua CIA directs exile "Contra" operations. US air units drop sea mines in harbors.
        1982-1984 Lebanon Marines land and naval forces fire on local combatants.
        1983 Grenada Military forces invade Grenada.
        1983-1989 Honduras Large program of military assistance aimed at conflict in Nicaragua.
        1984 Iran Two Iranian jets shot down over the Persian Gulf.
        1986 Libya US aircraft bomb the cities of Tripoli and Benghazi, including direct strikes at the official residence of President Muamar al Qadaffi.
        1986 Bolivia Special Forces units engage in counter-insurgency.
        1987-1988 Iran Naval forces block Iranian shipping. Civilian airliner shot down by missile cruiser."
        • +7 (9 voturi)    
          Macar citesti ce postezi? (Marţi, 15 august 2017, 18:37)

          Dianora [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui quietguy58

          ... e o ingramadire de fapte adevarate si false; niciun argument ca a lasat sa cada niste guverne aliate... nu mor de dragul americanilor dar alternative rusa e respinsa pana si de tari neutre ca Finlanda si Suedia - vaduvite si ele de teritorii de marele vecin (vezi Karelia si litoralul Baltic), care mai nou, s-au apropiat si ele de NATO. Apropo, nu ne dai si o lista cu interventii rusesti pentru guvernele prietene ca poti sa incepi cu Siria si Moldova, si cu cine si ce teritorii straine a mai ocupat (de ex. Crimea, Abhazia, Transnistria), asa ca netru ce te pretizi.
          • -5 (5 voturi)    
            Citesc, analizez si postez (partea a I-a) (Marţi, 15 august 2017, 22:01)

            quietguy58 [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui Dianora

            Cum se face ca "marele luptator pentru "pace" si "democratie" are cele mai multe interventii militare din istoria omenirii in numai 70 de ani?

            Acum, lista interventilor militare sovietice.
            Ukrainian Insurgent Army Insurgency (1942–1949)
            Ili Rebellion (1944–1949) Location: Xinjiang
            Insurgency in the Baltic states (1944–1956)
            Location: Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia
            Guerilla war in Poland (1944–1963)
            Korean War (1950–1953)
            Location: North Korea and South Korea
            East German Uprising (1953)
            Location: East Germany
            Hungarian Revolution (1956)
            Location: Hungary
            Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia (1968)
            Location: Czechoslovakia
            Sino-Soviet border conflict (1969)
            Location: Sino-Soviet border
            War of Attrition (1967–1970)
            Location: Egypt
            Eritrean War of Independence (1974–1991)
            Location: Eritrea (Withdrawal (in 1990)
            Angolan Civil War (1975–2002)
            Location: Angola (Withdrawal (in 1991)
            Ethio-Somali War (1977–1978)
            Location: Ogaden
            Soviet military intervention in Afghanistan (1979–1989)
            Location: Afghanistan
            Political defeat
            Failure of the Soviet attempt to quell Afghan Mujahedeen insurgency
            Geneva Accords
            Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan
            Mujahideen victory in the Afghan Civil War in 1992
          • -4 (4 voturi)    
            Citesc, analizez si postez (partea a II-a) (Marţi, 15 august 2017, 22:04)

            quietguy58 [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui Dianora

            Russian Federation (1991–present)

            Georgian Civil War (1991–1993)
            Location: Georgia
            War in Abkhazia (1991–1993)
            Location: Abkhazia
            Transnistria War (1992)
            Location: Transnistria
            East Prigorodny Conflict (1992)
            Location: North Ossetia-Alania
            Tajikistani Civil War (1992–1997) against taliban. Location: Tajikistan
            First Chechen War (1994–1996)
            Location: Chechnya
            War of Dagestan (1999)
            Location: Dagestan
            Second Chechen War (1999–2009)
            Location: Chechnya
            Russo-Georgian War (2008)
            Location: Georgia, South Ossetia and Abkhazia
            Insurgency in the North Caucasus (2009–present)
            Location: North Caucasus
            Russian military intervention in Ukraine (2014–present)
            Location: Ukraine and Crimea
            Russian military intervention in Syria (2015–present)
            Location: Syria
          • -4 (4 voturi)    
            Vietnam - Aliati parasiti de US (Miercuri, 16 august 2017, 0:43)

            quietguy58 [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui Dianora

            Movie - Abandoned Allies (2011)
            "Abandoned Allies explores relationships between the U.S. Special Forces soldiers and their loyal allies, the Montagnard people. On the battlegrounds in the central highlands during the Vietnam War, close friendships were created that still exist today--despite the disappointment of broken promises that lead to the abandonment of these American allies."
          • -3 (3 voturi)    
            Vietnam - aliati parasiti de US (partea a II-a) (Miercuri, 16 august 2017, 0:45)

            quietguy58 [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui Dianora

            "Hmong Involvement in Vietnam War and the Aftermath (Fall 2012)
            The Vietnam War was a war in which two major power country, US and Soviet Union, who were the power holders of what events were to take place in Vietnam and the other neighboring countries around Vietnam. The battle between the two was mainly over political because of the split of Vietnam and the rise of power on the communist side as North Vietnam tried to form a communist country by forcefully reuniting South Vietnam with the help of the Soviet Union. Due to the terrain of Vietnam being a jungle, the US was having many difficulties preventing Soviet and China, Soviets’ ally, from sending in weapons to arm North Vietnamese against the South Vietnamese. The CIA then turned to the Hmong people for help during the Vietnam War against communist insurgents during the war. (Leary, 2008) The US was having little success in bringing down the North Vietnamese as the Hmong were losing to the uprising of the Vietnamese army and the tactics of guerilla warfare was used against the US soldiers in Vietnam. There were enemies everywhere and they were all hard to take out because a majority of the enemy did not have uniforms and dressed up just like civilians. As the US fought the war it was also fighting against another war at home with its people, who were protesting against the war. As time progressed and the US knew there was no hope of winning the war the US then tried to find a way out withdrawing all its troops and getting out of the war. When a ceasefire agreement between both sides was made on February 1972, the US then quickly evacuated their troops and left the Hmong allies to fight the North Vietnamese alone. (Quincy 1995) After US left, the Hmong genocide soon came afterwards for aiding the US."

            Sources
            Evans, G. (2002). A SHORT STORY OF LAOS. Crows Nest, NSW: Allen & Unwin.
            Quincy, K. (1995). Hmong, history of a people. Cheney, WA: Eastern Washington University Press.
            Montlake, S. (2009, Decem
      • -8 (10 voturi)    
        Citeste istoria (partea a III-a) (Marţi, 15 august 2017, 17:23)

        quietguy58 [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui yellowdog

        "1989 Libya Naval aircraft shoot down two Libyan jets over Gulf of Sidra.
        1989 Philippines CIA and Special Forces involved in counterinsurgency.
        1989-1990 Panama 27,000 troops as well as naval and air power used to overthrow government of President Noriega.
        1990 Liberia Troops deployed.
        1990-1991 Iraq Major military operation, including naval blockade, air strikes; large number of troops attack Iraqi forces in occupied Kuwait.
        1991-2003 Iraq Control of Iraqi airspace in north and south of the country with periodic attacks on air and ground targets.
        1991 Haiti CIA-backed military coup ousts President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.
        1992-1994 Somalia Special operations forces intervene.
        1992-1994 Yugoslavia Major role in NATO blockade of Serbia and Montenegro.
        1993-1995 Bosnia Active military involvement with air and ground forces.
        1994-1996 Haiti Troops depose military rulers and restore President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to office.
        1995 Croatia Krajina Serb airfields attacked.
        1996-1997 Zaire (Congo) Marines involved in operations in eastern region of the country.
        1997 Liberia Troops deployed.
        1998 Sudan Air strikes destroy country's major pharmaceutical plant.
        1998 Afghanistan Attack on targets in the country.
        1998 Iraq Four days of intensive air and missile strikes.
        1999 Yugoslavia Major involvement in NATO air strikes.
        2001 Macedonia NATO troops shift and partially disarm Albanian rebels.
        2001 Afghanistan Air attacks and ground operations oust Taliban government and install a new regime.
        2003 Iraq Invasion with large ground, air and naval forces ousts government of Saddam Hussein and establishes new government.
        2003-present Iraq Occupation force of 150,000 troops in protracted counter-insurgency war
        2004 Haiti Marines land. CIA-backed forces overthrow President Jean-Bertrand Aristide."

        Link:
        https://www.globalpolicy.org/us-westward-expansion/26024.html
        https://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/interventions.html
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_mili
        • +2 (4 voturi)    
          Poti, in oglinda, sa prezinti si situatia (Marţi, 15 august 2017, 20:59)

          Susufler0 [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui quietguy58

          URSS (Rusia) ?

          A interventiilor militare ale URSS (Rusia) pt a da jos guverne cu ajutorul armelor ? ( Ungaria -1956 -, Cehoslovacia -1968, de exemplu), dar nu numai !
          • -3 (3 voturi)    
            Am postat lista interventiilor sovietice (Miercuri, 16 august 2017, 12:26)

            quietguy58 [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui Susufler0

            Am postat lista interventiilor sovietice / rusesti din perioada 1945 - 1990, respectiv 1990 - 2017.
        • +2 (6 voturi)    
          Pentru un "quiet guy" (Marţi, 15 august 2017, 21:22)

          mitg [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui quietguy58

          Ai o vuvuzela propagandista foarte intensa!
        • +5 (5 voturi)    
          nu este un simplu postac, este o institutie (Marţi, 15 august 2017, 22:26)

          B.T. Alexandru [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui quietguy58

          La intervale de 2 minute ( adica la 17:19, 17:21, 17: 23 ) "quietguy58" pune o lista exhuastiva + bibliografie pe o tema pe care o aflase pe la ora 13:33 ( prima postare). Denota o preocupare profunda pe subiect si o documentare prealabila foarte serioasa. Daca cunoaste la fel de bine si istoria altor interventii similare ( chiar si rusesti) in perioada aceasta, avem un specialist si un pasionat de istorie. Poate si de politica. In zi de sarbatoare sa contribui asa eficient la o dezbatere , este de apreciat. Multumesc pentru informatii , sunt curios sa aflu si altele.
          • 0 (0 voturi)    
            Va foarte multumesc pentru comentariu (Miercuri, 16 august 2017, 18:25)

            quietguy58 [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui B.T. Alexandru

            Va foarte multumesc pentru comentariul dvs.

            Traind linga americani de zeci de ani vad lucrurile , poate diferit, comparativ cu alte persoane.

            De unde pina in 2003 eram un fervent sustinator al US, dupa interventia US din Irak, mi-am schimbat mult impresia despre politica externa adeseori expansionist-militara a US.
      • -1 (3 voturi)    
        US intervention in Latin America (partea a VI-a) (Miercuri, 16 august 2017, 1:06)

        quietguy58 [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui yellowdog

        "1984
        CIA mines three Nicaraguan harbors. Nicaragua takes this action to the World Court, which brings an $18 billion judgment against the U.S. The U.S. refuses to recognize the Court's jurisdiction in the case.
        1984
        U.S. spends $10 million to orchestrate elections in El Salvador-- something of a farce, since left-wing parties are under heavy repression, and the military has already declared that it will not answer to the elected president.
        1989
        U.S. invades Panama to dislodge CIA boy gone wrong Manuel Noriega, an event which marks the evolution of the U.S.'s favorite excuse from Communism to drugs.
        1996
        The U.S. battles global Communism by extending most-favored-nation trading status for China, and tightening the trade embargo on Castro's Cuba."

        Sources:

        Black, George. The Good Neighbor. Pantheon Books, New York: 1988. Highly recommended. An often amusing history of U.S. attitudes toward its southern neighbors.
        Burns, E. Bradford. Latin America: A concise interpretive history. 4th ed. Prentice-Hall, Englewood Cliffs: 1986. Not only what the U.S. does to Latin America, but what Europe and the Latin Americans do to Latin America.
        Chomsky, Noam. Year 501: The Conquest Continues. South End Press, Boston: 1993. Packed with documentation.
        Galeano, Eduardo. Century of the Wind and Faces & Masks. Pantheon Books, New York: 1988. (Originally published as Memoria del fuego II, III: El siglo del viento, Las caras y las mascaras.) Vignettes from history, from a master Latin American novelist. As history, take it with a grain of salt.
        Gleijeses, Piero. Shattered Hope: The Guatemalan Revolution and the United States, 1944-1954. Princeton, Princeton NJ: 1991. The definitive study of the Arévalo/Arbenz administrations and the U.S. coup.
        Kwitny, Jonathan. Endless Enemies: The Making of an Unfriendly World. Congdon & Weed, New York: 1984. By a former Wall Street Journal reporter.
  • +1 (1 vot)    
    quiet guy (Miercuri, 16 august 2017, 2:15)

    ras-putin [utilizator]

    so, you're quiet or what?
    • -2 (2 voturi)    
      Yes, I'm a quiet guy (Miercuri, 16 august 2017, 12:33)

      quietguy58 [utilizator] i-a raspuns lui ras-putin

      Yes, I'm a quiet guy and I enjoy reading history stuff.


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